IRISH BEACH ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN COMMITTEE
PO Box 245 Manchester, CA 95459
(707) 882-3183
ibadc@ibiclub.com ibiclub.com
MINUTES for March 18, 2006
Open
meeting beginning at 11:00am at the Irish Beach Firehouse, 15401 Forest View
Drive.
CALL TO ORDER
Chuck
Conner called the meeting to order at 11:16AM.
IBADC members
present: Chairman Chuck Conner, Nik
Epanchin, Gordon Moores and Walt Rush.
Others in attendance: Richard Ambrifi, Roger Bean, Brian Carter, Glenn Coleman, Milli
and Doug Conover, Donna Dell, RJ Dial, Leon Drolet, Annette Fromwiller, Robert
Hoffman, Vera-Lee Kaiser, William Moores, Rick Morton, Richard Pate, Richard
Perkins, Paul Styskal, Ken and Julie Trout, Suzanne Whitaker, and Bettye Winters.
APPROVE MINUTES/TREASURER’S REPORT
Approve
minutes of January 21, 2006: No
comments were received. Nik moved to
approve the minutes. Gordon seconded
and the motion passed 4-0.
Treasurer’s
Report:
January
1, 2006-March 17, 2006: Administrator
Jean Selk
presented the report. The beginning
balance in the Committee’s checking account was $1303.50 with $1550.00 in
revenue and $2260.96 in expenses and an adjustment of $360 for a check that was
written but not issued. The ending
balance is $952.54. Nik moved to
approve the report as submitted. Gordon
seconded and the motion passed 4-0.
COMMUNICATIONS:
RAPELJE 1/003 (S. Hwy. 1):
2/20/06 Email inquiry asking if
improvements made by IBIC or beach road repairs fall under the jurisdiction of
the CC&Rs and/or the ADC. The Committee explained that repairs do not
require a permit but that IBIC is required to submit a courtesy letter
describing the repairs and the start and end date of the project.
MOREY 1/68 (44070 Noyo Way):
1/21/06 Receipt of letter reporting unauthorized removal of shrubs from
their property. The
Morey’s did not request any action of the ADC.
KUCALA 2/47 (14950 Mallo Pass Dr.): 1/31/06 Receipt of $150 fee and issuance of permit
0106-0247 for deck modification. The
permit is valid for 6 months and expires on 7/20/06.
MURRAY 2/64 (15061
Mallo Pass Dr.): Request for a height variance for garage.
(See minutes 1/21/06). The variance request will be
mailed to neighbors within a 300ft radius and a 30 day comment period will
begin. If no objections are received, a
Major Exterior Modification permit will be issued.
ORLIK 3/09 (14660 Cypress Point Rd.): 2/26/06 Notification of intent to repair the west
deck without change to the size the style, repair a built-in planter on the
east side of the house and add enclosed garbage can storage to the screened
parking area. The repairs to the deck and
planter do not require a permit. The
garbage enclosure requires a Minor Exterior Improvement permit.
CONOVER 3/40 (43580 Sea
Cypress Dr.): 1/25/06 Receipt of variance request for a
2ft height variance. (See minutes
1/21/06). The ADC has made a written
request (2/8/06) for additional details describing the amount of material and
money saved by the proposed height variance.
The ADC received the requested information on 3/12/06. The Committee has reviewed the additional information and is not
able to determine the extent of the economic hardship. The Committee asked Mr. Conover to submit a
comparison of the quantities, their unit costs, their cost differences and how
they were derived between the approved Phase II plans and the current
application with sufficient detail to allow the Committee to make an
evaluation. Mr. Conover indicated that
he has the detailed data. Glenn Coleman
objected to having to make quantity take-offs but was over-ruled by the
Committee. Currently, there is no clear
definition of “economic hardship” as stated in CC&R 4.6 and the ADC intends
to establish a definition in the future.
SIMONEAUX 4/14 (15501 Forest View Rd.): 2/16/06 Notification of
intent to remove three pine trees.
WHITAKER 4/12 (15461 Forest View Dr.) Receipt of copy of County requirements for propane tanks. Tanks greater than 124 gallons must be at
least 10ft from a structure. Copies have been sent to Rodriguez (2/52)
and Glenn Coleman. (See minutes of
1/21/06)
MOULTHROP 4/60 (15470 Forest View Dr.): 1/30/06 ADC letter
advising that the driveway/parking area requires a permit. The ADC received an application on 312/06. The Moulthrops added a garbage enclosure and
a fence for screened parking to the application which will most likely bring
the cost of the improvements to over $2000 resulting in an application fee of
$150. Further details regarding the
proposed fence are needed along with the additional $100 and the item will be
placed on the agenda.
RYNECKI 4/66 (15620
Forest View Rd.): 2/19/06
Email inquiry asking if it is possible to move a historic home onto
their lot. The ADC made a written reply
dated 2/24/06 explaining that all new homes must go through the permit process. The project would have to go through the usual application
process for a New Home Construction permit, including Phase I and II
hearings. Mr. Rynecki would need to
consider the dimensions of the house, applicable setbacks, the 20ft height
restriction, etc. In an effort to save
money, such data including photos and color schemes should be provided to the
ADC prior to embarking into the “normal” Phase I process.
FROMWILLER 4/68 (15700
Forest View Road): Notification of intent to install driveway
apron as described on NHC permit 0102-0468, which expired on 4/18/04. To review, the ADC wrote to Ms. Fromwiller in August of 2004
detailing unfinished work on her permit and requesting payment of the $300 extension
fee and completion of the project. Ms.
Fromwiller informed the ADC in November of 2004 that outside construction was
completed in October and requested closure of the permit. The Committee now offers to drop the request
for the extension fee and close the NHC permit; however, the driveway apron
requires a Minor Exterior Improvement permit.
Ms. Fromwiller agreed to submit an application. The Bucke permit will also be closed and
removed from the agenda. (See “Unfinished Business”)
WM. MOORES 5/05 (43551
Sea Cypress Dr.): Receipt of permit extension fee for NHC
permit 0205-0505. Construction has not
begun and the permit is now valid until 2/18/07 and may be renewed once more.
O’DELL 7/5 (44560 Pomo Lake Dr.): 2/3/06
Notification of intent to replace the roof and re-stain with no color
change.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
BUCKE 4/18 (15601
Forest View Drive): Issue of whether or not an after the fact
permit extension is required. This permit
will be closed and removed from the agenda.
(See “Communications: Fromwiller”)
MORTON 4/42 (15851
Forest View Rd): 2/27/06
Receipt of verification from Richard Seale, Surveyor, that the roof
height conforms to the approved Phase II plans. This item will be removed from the agenda.
PACKER 4/67 (15640 Forest View Rd): Permit
status. No response has been received from ADC letter dated 1/20/06. (See
minutes 1/21/06)
FROMWILLER 4/68 (15700
Forest View Road): 12/20/04
Notification from Ms. Fromwiller that the installation of her propane
tank, woodshed and fencing was completed on 10/9/04 and request for closure of
her permit. This permit will be closed and removed from
the agenda. (See “Communications:
Fromwiller”)
HUNOLT 7/11 (44500
O’Rorey’s Place): No reply has been received to ADC letter
of 9/18/04 regarding excavation on property.
GMEINER 7/23 (44370 O’Rorey’s Roost): Permit status. No response has been received from ADC letter dated 1/20/06. (See
minutes 1/21/06)
TRATHEN 7/26 & 27
(44400 & 44410 O’Rorey’s Roost): Issue of
non-permitted split rail fence. No response has been received to ADC letter
dated 12/8/06. (See minutes 5/21/05 and 1/21/06)
TRATHEN 7/26 (44400
O’Rorey’s Roost): Verification of foundation location and
non-permitted construction of a fence or retaining wall. No
response has been received to ADC letter dated 12/8/05. (See minutes 1/21/06)
GMEINER 7/33 (44421 O’Rorey’s Roost): Issue of trees. (See
minutes 1/21/06) The
Committee has not yet made a site visit.
NEW BUSINESS:
Hearings for New Home Construction and Major
Exterior Modification permits will be limited to 60 minutes; 30 minutes for
presentation and Committee questions and 30 minutes for audience input and
discussion.
IBADC: (Continued
from 1/21/06) Proposed revision of ADC Construction Guidelines, Policies and
Fees. A notice of the proposed changes was mailed
to all property owners through the IBIC and the comment period is extended to
4/2/06, or 30 days from the date of mailing.
A meeting will be scheduled for April 15 for the purpose of addressing
comments from the community and finalizing the proposals. The proposals are available on the IBIC web
site or by mail, upon request. Copies
will be available at the next meetings.
Comments were received questioning the justification for the increase in
application fees, the requirement of a performance deposit and “fines” for
after the fact permit applications. Fee
increase: The current fee structure
was put in place in 1998 and there has been a consistent trend over the past
several years of expenses being greater than income. It seems reasonable to
expect the number of new applications to remain consistent in the foreseeable
future. In addition, the ADC has been
threatened with lawsuits and has had to seek legal counsel. Although no suits have been filed, the
Committee sees a need to begin building a fund to cover potential future legal
costs. The proposed fees are less than
the County permit fees. Performance
Deposit: The purpose of the
refundable deposit is to ensure that the required verifications of the approved
foundation location and building heights are obtained. If the requirement is fulfilled by the
owner, the deposit is refunded in full.
If the requirement is not fulfilled the Committee will hire an
appropriately credentialed professional and deduct the cost from the deposit,
the balance of which will then be refunded to the property owner. This is the only way the ADC can reasonably
ensure compliance to the approved plans.
After the fact permit fee of 3x the regular application fee: This is not a fine, but a fee, similar to a
permit extension fee.
IBADC: Open
Committee seat. An ad hoc search
committee was formed by IBIC consisting of Chuck Conner, RJ Dial (IBIC Vice
President) and Steve Whitaker.
PAOLI: 1/30/06
Receipt of an additional portfolio submittal and request for reconsideration of
Professional Architectural Designer (PAD) status. (See minutes 2/19/05.) During the Committee’s pre-meeting, it was resolved that, based
on additional portfolio review, David Paoli is approved as a Professional
Architectural Designer in Irish Beach.
PYEATT 1/005 (Irish
Beach Dr.) Minor Exterior Improvement permit
application for the installation of a hot tub.
No comments were received. Gordon
moved to approve the application. Walt
seconded and the motion passed 4-0.
STEUER 3/53 (43781
Cypress Pkwy.): Minor Exterior Improvement permit
application for the installation of a hot tub.
No comments were received. Walt moved to approve the
application. Gordon seconded and the
motion passed 4-0.
HOFFMAN 1/052 (14780 S. Hwy 1): Phase I application for New Home Construction permit. No
comments were received. Chuck explained that the
building envelope was not staked 2 weeks prior to the meeting and therefore no
approval can be made today. The
application was heard with that understanding.
Paul Styskal, PAD, explained the required set backs leave a fairly small
building area. Caltrans will not grant
an encroachment permit onto Highway 1 so the driveway must come out on Navarro
Way and the may require a County variance.
Mr. Styskal explained that the view from the Trujillo house (3/1&2)
is down Navarro Way and not impacted by the project. The neighboring house to the west (Gardner, 1/053) is 42.5ft from
the property line and the Hoffman proposed building envelope is 6ft from the
shared property line. The Hoffman’s
must either obtain a notarized statement from the Gardners stating their
agreement to maintain the 28ft building separation by limiting future expansion
to a 22ft setback or by going through the variance process. The Committee observed that future
development on lots 1/070 and 1/071 will block the current lighthouse view from
1/052. Mr. Hoffman stated that he was
aware of that when he bought the lot and does not expect a view to the south
across those lots. Gordon stated he
would like a statement of this awareness for the property file. When the property is staked, a letter will
be sent to property owners within a 300ft radius with a copy of the
minutes. If no objections are received,
the Phase I approval can be granted at the April meeting and the 6ft west set
back will be addressed in Phase II.
TROUT 2/19 (44661 Pomo Lake Dr.): Phase I application for New Home Construction permit. Two comments were received from Wm. Moores
(2/16) and Epanchin (4/35). Architect
Roger Bean presented the application.
The lot is narrow and almost flat with the back or south portion being
unbuildable due to the steep slope and State regulations regarding the set back
from the creek. The septic system will
be at the front or north part of lot.
The ocean view from the living area is to the southwest and the views of
the lots to the east do not affect the location of the Trout house. Lots to the west are also limited by the
slope and will not able to build on the southernmost portion and therefore will
not block the view from lot 19 when they build. Mr. Bean explained that the previously submitted plans, which
were rejected by the ADC, showed the correct topography on the wrong lot. Bill Moores (2/16) stated that he believes
lot 18 is buildable on the slope and that the Trouts will lose their lighthouse
view when the lot is developed and argued that they should build as far south
as possible to preserve their ocean view. Mr. Bean agreed that the view
increases as you go south, as does the cost.
Mr. Bean argued that building on the slope could result in problems
meeting the 16ft height restriction. It
was agreed that a field trip was needed.
At the site, a line was run from the back of the Albert residence (2/15)
east across vacant lots 16-19 to a point 10ft south of the proposed Trout
building envelope, or the 96ft contour line on the site plan. All parties agreed that the building
envelope will be extended the additional 10ft to the south and development on
lots 2/16-18 cannot block more 40% of the ocean view, as measured by an angle
starting from the Albert house and ending at the most southwestern extent of
the view. Nik moved to approve the Phase
I application as presented with the southern building envelope being at the
96ft contour line of the site plan.
Gordon seconded and the motion passed 3-0. Walt Rush was not present.
WM. MOORES 7/15 (44290
O’Rorey’s’ Roost): Phase I variance request for a 6ft north set
back. Two comments were received from
MCP (7/16) and Moglia (7/13). Gordon
Moores recused himself and joined the audience. Bill Moores repeated the arguments for the variance made at the
ADC meeting of 1/21/06. MCP,
represented by Gordon Moores, does not agree to the variance. He argued that lot 15 is buildable and has
ocean views without a variance and that no hardship exists. He further argued that the Hunolt lots are
not under the CC&Rs and therefore MCP cannot predict where they will build
or how it might affect lot 16. Moglia
(7/13) has made a written objection to Bill Moores’ proposed 28ft building
separation from his house. ADC policy
measures building separation from eave to eave, or the furthest extent of the
building. A site visit was made at the
end to the meeting. No motion was made
due to a lack of a quorum (Walt Rush was not at the site visit) and the item
will be continued at the next meeting.
AMBRIFI 7/34 (44301 O’
Rorey’s Roost): Phase I application for New Home
Construction permit. One comment was
received from Wm. Moores. Architect Richard Pate presented
the application. The septic system is
on the south portion of the lot with the proposed 1700ft2 house and garage on the north portion.
The east setback, bordering lot 35, is at the 6ft line. Bill
Moores, possible future owner of lot 35, has requested that the building
envelope be restricted to no greater than 71ft south of the northeast corner of
the lot, or one half of the lot dimension, in order to share the ocean view
with lot 35. Mr. Pate stated that that
would eliminate the master bedroom and explained that they plan to excavate 3ft
on the east side to keep the building height at 12ft and mitigate the impact on
the view from easterly lots. Pate offered
to cut 2-3ft from the garage and push the building envelope west resulting in
an 11ft set back from the shared line.
The Committee explained that 2 options are available, either obtain a
notarized agreement from MCP for a set back of less than 16ft or go through the
variance process. An agreement was
reached whereby the site plan is red lined to reflect a 16ft set back and Mr.
Ambrifi will pursue an agreement with MCP for a reduced set back, to be
addressed in Phase II. Chuck moved to
approve the Phase I application as revised and redlined. Nik seconded and the motion passed 4-0.
CARTER 3/26 (14555
Cypress Pt. Rd): Application for Major Exterior Modification permit for an
addition to their home. No comments
were received. Architect Richard Perkins
presented the application and explained that the Carters proposed to extend the
existing upper floor to add a 10ft x 16ft room. The footprint of the building does not change. The closest existing structure is more than
32ft away. Walt moved to approve the
application. Nik seconded and the
motion passed 4-0.
ADJOURNMENT/NEXT MEETING
The meeting was adjourned at 4:25PM
The next meeting is scheduled for April 15, 2006 for
the purpose of addressing comments from the community regarding the proposed
policy and procedural changes and finalization.
The next public meeting for application hearings and
other business will be held on May 20, 2006 beginning at 11:00AM.
Minutes submitted by Jean Selk